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Post by astrid on Aug 4, 2005 2:20:04 GMT -5
i just had my partials last month and it still feel so strange wearing
them.i even have an awkward time when i eat or talk.and also i wonder
coz, my pops remove his dentures when he sleeps and sometimes i see him
soak it in vinegar solution and i felt really gross about it. i heard
of denture cleaners like polident...like do they really work?are they really any good?
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Post by letsconnect on Aug 4, 2005 4:51:57 GMT -5
Hi again  - do NOT soak partials in a vinegar solution (this would be detrimental to the metal clasps). Take your partial out when you sleep and place it in water. This gives your gums and teeth some rest. Placing it in water keeps it from drying out and changing its shape. Do use a denture cleaner once a day if you're concerned about smell. The one recommended by the American Dental Association (ADA) is called Efferdent Anti-Bacterial Denture Cleaner. For directions on how to use this product, see here: www.pfizer.com/pfizer/do/counter/oral/mn_efferdent.jspRemove your partial to clean it using a denture brush and toothpaste (over a folded towel, in case you drop it). There are various denture toothbrushes available in pharmacies. In the US, the ADA recommends Fresh'n Brite Denture toothpaste (do not use ordinary toothpastes for your partial, as these tend to be too abrasive): www.pfizer.com/pfizer/do/counter/oral/mn_freshnbrite.jspBrush them twice a day, and rinse after every meal. Make sure you clean the clasps and areas around the clasps really well (because trapped bacteria and food particles could cause the teeth they're attached to to decay) . Brush and floss your teeth with the partial out of your mouth. Brush your gums (where the partial sits) with a soft toothbrush. If you follow these tips, you should not have a problem with regards to smell. Regarding getting used to dentures, Mike gave a lot of good advice in the following thread: dentalphobia.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=dentistry&action=display&thread=1115728808Hope some of this helps ! |
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Post by astrid on Aug 7, 2005 22:33:45 GMT -5
hey thanks for the tip sir/mam. specially bout avoiding vinegar when soaking my denture. and about the denture cleaner, my friend says i use the polident brand.what do you think ? is it really good?
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Post by letsconnect on Aug 8, 2005 5:51:56 GMT -5
Polident is fine, except they make a range of products for dentures. Make sure you get the one called "Polident Partials" (for an overview of their products, see www.polident.com/products.aspx ), and follow the instructions that come with the product. Some denture cleaners are not suitable for metal parts, so just make sure the one you're using is suitable for partials. |
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Post by astrid on Aug 10, 2005 23:20:13 GMT -5
hey thanks for the information mam. i havent bought the partial polident yet but im sure to try it out. appreciate it very much.  |
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Post by letsconnect on Aug 27, 2005 13:39:27 GMT -5
Please note that the poster above is a troll who's been going around dental-related boards, under various names. Polident is no more effective than other denture cleaners. It is more important to thoroughly brush your denture, with a non-abrasive denture toothpaste and a brush for dentures.
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Post by CONCERNED GUEST on Aug 31, 2005 6:29:02 GMT -5
I am very disturbed by the nature of this website.
Whilst some of the information given to people suffering dental phobias is valid and highly useful the information given in the discussion and chat areas is at best misleading and at worst wrong.
Sparse information is collected - without the benefit of accurate records, history or examination and then "advice" given often by non dentists. However well meaning that this is - it is not a service to those people seeking assistance as invariably it will mislead.
No dentist without the benefit of a full radiographic, intra and extra oral examination along with the relevant records be they models, periodontal depths or pulp tests can give any patient accurate advice. All they can garnish is generic suppositions and blanket statements which offer little assistance to the patient.
I would strongly recommend that those people who are visiting this site with questions consider to follow the useful criteria given re selection of a dentist that will be suited to treating phobic patients and go as advised for an initial consult. If they are unsure of how to proceed once a treatment plan is given they should seek a second or if necessary third opinion undertaken after a thorough examination. Advice given over a website will only muddy the waters.
I think it is very well meaning to try to help those with dental phobias - in my practice we treat large numbers of phobic patients and try to give as much further information as they can handle. BUT TO TRY TO DIAGNOSE AND OFFER ADVICE OVER THE INTERNET ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE NOT A FULLY QUALIFIED DENTIST IS WRONG. EVEN IF FULLY QUALIFIED, UNLESS YOU CAN COLLATE ALL THE RELEVANT DETAILS ALREADY TAKEN BY A THIRD PARTY IN DIGITAL FORM ALONG WITH RELEVANT MODELS - AN ASSAY OF THE PATIENTS DEMENOR AND ORAL HABITS (WHICH I PERSONALLY BELIEVE TO BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE) YOU ARE NOT OFFERING A WELL CONCIDERED OPINION BUT RATHER ILL FOUNDED SUPPOSITION.
I understand that your disclaimer proports that you are only giving advice and not attempting to offer an adjunct to dental advice however I fear that many of the posts here do not see this as such. Many seem to take your advice as the gospel truth which is disturbing as in several cases it is clearly incorrect.
A classic example if I may elaborate is in regards to the discussion on the usage of rubber dam and endodontics. Rubber dam must always be utilized if not then the procedure will not be performed within a sterile field and as such is liable to failure. The risk of aspiration of a file or other instrument such as a paper point also places the patient at an unacceptable risk. Best care is not optional - it is fundamental to best treatment. even with precautionary measures - i.e. sterile cotton rolls and sterile floss tied to every instrument this only serves to limit the extent of damage if an object is inhaled.
In numerous years of practice both I and my wife - also a practicing dentist have NEVER seen a patient rubber dam could not be placed on with various adjunct techniques - if the will to perform best treatment with a motivated patient is present then the best result will occur. If either the patient or the dentist wish to undertake half measures then invariably failure will occur in a proportion of cases, (which the relevant medical literature will support - just look on medline and pubmed).
Indeed if the gag relex is so bad concievably as to prevent the placement of the dam it would also be so bad when attempting to conduct correct oral hygiene such as brushing rinsing and flossing. If this cannot be undertaken then the prognosis for the tooth is at best poor and other alternatives would have to be looked at.
There are numerous examples of poor, misleading or blatantly incorrect advice upon this site. I intend to post this message upon all discussions to reaffirm that patients should SEE A DENTIST to have their diagnosis and treatment plan undertaken. I hope that the moderator is brave enough to allow this limited criticism to surface. It is definitely not an attack on the website which provide some very good information but a WARNING to those seeking advice further to the disclaimer posted on the mesage boards.
Remember that a lot of knowledge is useful but A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS VERY DANGEROUS. Without a full and comprehensive face to face analysis of a patient - no truely useful diagnosis and treatment plan can be undertaken.
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Post by letsconnect on Aug 31, 2005 6:52:16 GMT -5
Sparse information is collected - without the benefit of accurate records, history or examination and then "advice" given often by non dentists. However well meaning that this is - it is not a service to those people seeking assistance as invariably it will mislead. No dentist without the benefit of a full radiographic, intra and extra oral examination along with the relevant records be they models, periodontal depths or pulp tests can give any patient accurate advice. All they can garnish is generic suppositions and blanket statements which offer little assistance to the patient. Hence the disclaimers. Any advice here is posted for entertainment or/and educational purposes only - only a qualified health professional in person can give any definitive advice. I would strongly recommend that those people who are visiting this site with questions consider to follow the useful criteria given re selection of a dentist that will be suited to treating phobic patients and go as advised for an initial consult. If they are unsure of how to proceed once a treatment plan is given they should seek a second or if necessary third opinion undertaken after a thorough examination. Advice given over a website will only muddy the waters. Agreed. That's what we recommend. However, simply saying "get a second opinion" without addressing the actual question is usually perceived as a fob-off. I think it is very well meaning to try to help those with dental phobias - in my practice we treat large numbers of phobic patients and try to give as much further information as they can handle. BUT TO TRY TO DIAGNOSE AND OFFER ADVICE OVER THE INTERNET ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE NOT A FULLY QUALIFIED DENTIST IS WRONG. EVEN IF FULLY QUALIFIED, UNLESS YOU CAN COLLATE ALL THE RELEVANT DETAILS ALREADY TAKEN BY A THIRD PARTY IN DIGITAL FORM ALONG WITH RELEVANT MODELS - AN ASSAY OF THE PATIENTS DEMENOR AND ORAL HABITS (WHICH I PERSONALLY BELIEVE TO BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE) YOU ARE NOT OFFERING A WELL CONCIDERED OPINION BUT RATHER ILL FOUNDED SUPPOSITION. Which posts in particular are you referring to? I understand that your disclaimer proports that you are only giving advice and not attempting to offer an adjunct to dental advice however I fear that many of the posts here do not see this as such. Many seem to take your advice as the gospel truth which is disturbing as in several cases it is clearly incorrect. A classic example if I may elaborate is in regards to the discussion on the usage of rubber dam and endodontics. Rubber dam must always be utilized if not then the procedure will not be performed within a sterile field and as such is liable to failure. The risk of aspiration of a file or other instrument such as a paper point also places the patient at an unacceptable risk. Best care is not optional - it is fundamental to best treatment. even with precautionary measures - i.e. sterile cotton rolls and sterile floss tied to every instrument this only serves to limit the extent of damage if an object is inhaled. I totally agree. So do the dentists who give advice on this board. In numerous years of practice both I and my wife - also a practicing dentist have NEVER seen a patient rubber dam could not be placed on with various adjunct techniques - if the will to perform best treatment with a motivated patient is present then the best result will occur. If either the patient or the dentist wish to undertake half measures then invariably failure will occur in a proportion of cases, (which the relevant medical literature will support - just look on medline and pubmed). Sure, but I'm not going to engage in dentist-bashing (err, at least where it's not indicated ). I also cannot control everyone else's opinions on this board. There are numerous examples of poor, misleading or blatantly incorrect advice upon this site. I intend to post this message upon all discussions to reaffirm that patients should SEE A DENTIST to have their diagnosis and treatment plan undertaken. I hope that the moderator is brave enough to allow this limited criticism to surface. It is definitely not an attack on the website which provide some very good information but a WARNING to those seeking advice further to the disclaimer posted on the mesage boards. Please do not spam these boards. Instead, why not post in the numerous threads which contain the "poor, misleading or blatantly incorrect advice"? That way, at least we'll have a chance of addressing your misgivings. Besides the rubber dam issue (which has been discussed ad nauseum), what are your complaints? Remember that a lot of knowledge is useful but A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS VERY DANGEROUS. Without a full and comprehensive face to face analysis of a patient - no truely useful diagnosis and treatment plan can be undertaken. We all know that. The problem is that most of the people who post here are TOO SCARED to see a dentist!!! That's why it's called a dental phobia support and discussion forum. |
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Post by letsconnect on Aug 31, 2005 10:20:33 GMT -5
I understand that your disclaimer proports that you are only giving advice and not attempting to offer an adjunct to dental advice however I fear that many of the posts here do not see this as such. Many seem to take your advice as the gospel truth I've bolded the relevant existing statement and added some bits from our disclaimer posts to the main header. However, I cannot legislate for the possibility that some people may not read this and choose to take advice as the gospel truth. The same is true for the tens of thousands of other self-help message boards out there. [actually, I've unbolded it again - it looked awful, and I can't figure out how to make that bit red.] |
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- do NOT soak partials in a vinegar solution (this would be detrimental to the metal clasps). Take your partial out when you sleep and place it in water. This gives your gums and teeth some rest. Placing it in water keeps it from drying out and changing its shape.